Good Men Destroy Themselves Trying to Save Everyone

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Conversation about family that nobody had with us. Because every yes outside of the home costs someone inside it. When I say this, we're not saying you should never help your family. You should never help your friends. But when is enough enough?

SPEAKER_00 0:30

How do you judge? So we can give answers for both of those situations. How do we choose better, right? And once we're in it, how do we manage what we're in? And then here goes the biggest question of it all. When do we when is it time to let go of certain situations when dealing with family? When is it the proper time to let go of certain situations when dealing with family? That is tough. But I believe after this conversation, I believe we can give some ideas and some solutions about how to make that happen. Because we got to. Because there's a lot of people out here right now, black men, that are suffering mentally because we don't know for our health when to let certain things go.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

When we say family, let's be specific. This could go on for hours. So I wanna, you know, do we mean family, like fam, you know, just family, you know, siblings, cousins, and blah, blah, blah. Or do we mean, or are we specifically talking about a baby mama, a girlfriend, a wife? Because when we're talking about when do you know when to stop doing something for somebody, who are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

I would say this, uh, it's both. And I'm gonna tell you why. We will probably have to have another segment to discuss the particulars. Yeah, the nuances when it comes to certain family members. Right. But I'm gonna try to summarize it just a little bit. Uh, and a givea spiritual aspect. The Bible speaks of a man and woman should leave their mother and father and become one. Okay? The man and woman is to leave their mother and father. Leave your mama and daddy. And up under mama and daddy includes everybody else: aunties, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, all of that. Nah, it's me and my lady. It's me and my wife. We are one. We are in agreement. Any man worth his thought up under a spiritual sense, under the Christian sense, there's no other way. I see too many situations of men that came up in a strong family, a proud family, a large family. And they're like, that's my family, that's my brother. Me and my cousins, we like brothers. And so I'm I'm so this is the woman you decided to make your wife. This is your everything now. This her.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

I'm about to strike a nerve right quick. I got a baby mama. I have someone that's the mother of my children outside of my wife. We had a baby. I hate to tell it to you, brother. That baby is not your everything. When you decided to get married, up under the eyes of God, that woman you married and you gave her your last name, she just became your everything. She just became you. I'm I'm and I know you got a two-year-old. I know. And she and she's cute as a button. I know. She makes you smile and she feels your heart full of joy. Your two-year-old baby is not your wife. I I know I struck a nerve. I know. Because that's a baby and that's innocence. But what about this woman that you gave your last name and you took vows and you swore to protect? You didn't take no vows when you when you had a baby. First off, see, so if we don't never get that right, and guess what? Watch this. The same go vice versa for the woman. I don't care what large family you came up in. I don't care what your daddy means to you. I don't care how much you and your mama like to go twinning and go shopping. That I don't care how much your auntie she took care of you and she let you. None of that means nothing when you stood up under the mighty hand of God and took vows and you said, This is my husband, and you vowed that through sickness, through health, through better, through worse, all of this. See, either it means something or it don't. So if we'll never get that part right, no wonder it's an uphill battle. No wonder this the disrespect is so flowing in the household. No wonder the the all these ideologies and these beliefs and these thinkings and everything that your Mima told you is cycling through your head because you don't want to believe the vows that you took. You don't really want to be Bonnie and Clive for real. You still treating your husband like the dude you dated.

SPEAKER_06 4:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Come on, man. Can I be honest? And and the men, you still treating your wife like the chick you used to slap on. Or did I say that? Yeah, I said it. Because there has to be some understanding about what this relationship and this union is supposed to be. So let me get off of that for a minute. Once that's established, that it's you and her, and ain't nothing breaking that up, the Bible says what God has brought together, let no man put asunder. That means don't let nobody come in between that. Your children or nothing. So now, once you and your lady have established that it's you and her and y'all running things, guess what? You now, every day is your best day to do the best that you can. And I will sum it up like this. I don't care if you love your brother, your sister, your aunt, your cousin, your godmama, I don't care what it is. If their existence in your family puts any kind of strain, anguish, division in between you and your wife, oh, you gotta let that go. Easier said than done, I know. I know. Easier said than done. You, your brother, y'all might as well have been twins. I get it. Y'all, y'all were stair steps, y'all a year apart, and y'all that tight, I get it. But your brother ain't married, and he got a drinking problem. And he got a gambling addiction online. And every time you turn around, you the one saving him from his situation. I told you to stop. I gave you the last of my money to pay that debt.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

I swear, if you draft down with your stupidity, you're out of this house.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

When is that gonna come to an end? To keep your household together? Am I talking too real right now? No, you did that's this is what the topic is. This is the conversation. You gotta let some stuff go. You gotta let it or it's gonna destroy you and destroy what you got. I didn't say not to love them. I didn't say not to pray for them. I didn't say that. I didn't say not to not set boundaries. I didn't say that. What I'm saying is you're not their God. Some people gonna have to learn lessons and they're gonna be some hard lessons. But by us enabling them, still always trying to fill in a gap when it's not your place, you're gonna lose yourself and you're gonna lose what you have. Now, I can take that one scenario, and no matter what family member we choose, I don't care if it's your own son, I don't care if it's your own daughter. You're gonna have to establish some rules and you're gonna have to establish your position to be able to let some things go. Because at the end of the day, you're no one's God. You're not. You're just a man doing the best that you can. Man, uh let's keep the conversation going and opening up the doors because I know you you're a man of lived experience. I know you know of situations that you're like, wow, what why did they why is it so hard? Why did he struggling with this situation?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Definitely. I mean, I can remember, I can remember when I got when I got married, and I'm standing up there, me and my wife, we standing up there, the preachers talking, and I remember him saying just that thing. That everybody else don't matter no more. Yo mama, your daddy, her mother, her family, it's you two now. You two are at the top of the sphere. It's all about you two. Now, some people might just hear that, and like you said, go back to doing what they always do. Putting a family ahead of everything. Like you said, you might got some, you know, a big family, and this is how we always do it. Well, this is why you're in the trouble you're in, having the trouble you having now. If that's the case, you can't do it like that no more. Neither one of you can. See, one person can't respect it and the other person disrespect it. Nah, both of y'all gotta respect it. Respect it. That this family, like I said in the beginning, saying yes to anybody outside of the family is taken away from somebody inside of it. I remember it's this, it was this meme on TikTok or whatever, and it had three people. Go, and it goes back to what you said in the beginning. It had the two the little girl, the mama, and the wife. And it asked who they had they were asking all these men. That was who do you pick? Who comes first? Your mom, your daughter, or your wife?

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Give me mom, mom, daughter, wife, daughter, wife, wife replaceable. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

Oh, wow, replaceable? Okay. So this is like hypothetical when I'm like later in life in my 30s when I have all three of those. So I would say I'd probably pick like daughter and wife and mom. I love my mom uh. I love my mom.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

You can always find another wife. So we go mama.

SPEAKER_05 9:35

I was raised my single mother, so my mom's gonna come first. First, okay. My daughter. My wife is the last if I have a daughter like this, that's my baby. I gotta put my daughter.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Who comes first in a man's life? Your mom. Your mom. Because the reason why I say this, it's the person who's been with you the longest. Okay. The person who've been through more shit with you. The person that you can call on. Well, you can call on nobody else. Okay. And for me, that's my mama. All right, now your lady's with you. Would she would she agree with that? I don't give a damn what she agreed with. I'm calling my mama.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

You know who everybody was picking? Little girl. Nobody's picking their wife. That's the problem. You supposed to pick your wife. You ain't supposed to pick your mama. Your your mom, your mama's supposed to tell you what you picking me for. Your little girl don't know nobody. You, you, you gonna, I'm I'm your daddy, whatever. I'm here. But I'm not picking you over my wife. That's the problem. That's the conversation that we're not having, that we don't know. That that was that was the experiment right there. That's all they kept picking. I'm picking my little girl, man. I'm sorry. What you marry her for, dude, if you can't, if you're not picking her over everybody else. Because, and I'm and I'm gonna keep it real, because your family, the people in your family, I I got a brother that's doing time in prison right now. And he in there because he so he because he belongs in there. I ain't you ain't finna hear me say no mess about, well, he's in, no, the time he got, maybe it maybe is a lot, but he belongs in there. But he's the type of person, and I know people out there, I know y'all got family like this, that will make their problems yours. They will not stop asking you and asking you and asking you and asking you for stuff till they get what they want. And if their problems, they will make them yours. And people like that, you have to know when is enough. Because for them, nothing is enough. Nothing is enough. Nothing is enough. That's the people that that's the that's the people that we talk, that's the people that I'm talking about. When we talk about the people that you need to decide you have to say, look, this, look, man, you grown. You you're my brother. Okay, I get it. But damn, man. But this is the conversation. My father never had this conversation with me. He never had this conversation with me. You know, you gotta do this, that, and the third. And if he didn't have it, where else was I gonna have it? Who else was gonna get who else was gonna put me up on this game? Who else was gonna tell me this? No one. So that back to my question in the in the beginning. Why do we think we need to do this? Because no one told us not to do it. And the people who are asking for stuff, they make you feel guilty for not doing it. I love my brother. All the shit that he's done, and he swears oh, I changed. No, you haven't. No, you haven't. Because you still do the same shit. He's in prison, he still does the same stuff. He makes his problems, his family. And you haven't changed just because you say you changed, the people around you need to notice your change. The people around you need to say, Man, you changed. You can't just say, Oh, I changed. See, I changed. Says who? You it don't count. That it don't count, especially depending on how bad you were of a person before all this happened. You need you need confirmation. You need you need receipts from other people. You need receipts from other people.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

You know what's interesting? Everything that you're saying, and I can tell it's very heartfelt to you. I can tell it's very, it's touching for you, as it should be. But this is the blessed thing about this conversation is that it's the tough conversation to have. Yeah, it's the conversation. Who had these conversations with us? Like, let's put it like this. The conversations was had, but they wasn't had with they weren't had with great instruction given. They weren't had with great detail given on how to protect yourself. No. Yeah, exactly. The way we the conversations was had was I don't fool with old boy, I don't fool with her. That's your cousin, that's your uncle. I don't mess with them. And then the wording has changed over the years. I gotta protect my peace. Like we we start saying a lot of things, but but what we're really not getting at the root of is why is it why we should let go? And this this is just what I use for myself. And you heard me say this earlier. I'm no one's God. And one of the things I do my best not to make the mistake in is having a God complex, trying to fix everything, trying to solve everything, trying to be somebody, trying to be a hero in somebody's story. And and again, and again, I get it. It hurts, especially when it's like your child. Let's talk about that for a minute. Yeah. What if you got a child, a teenage child or an adult child? Yeah. That's doing different. Man, I I remember growing up as a kid, I remember seeing it. I remember seeing parents worrying themselves to death because they got a 28-year-old that ain't that can't get it right. I was like, wow, are they literally still sitting up there looking outside the window, peeping between the blinds, worrying about what their 28-year-old son, what their 30-year-old daughter is still doing? Yeah. I was like, wow. And I just kind of said, of course, you young, I'm like, man, that'll never be me. Man, how can I put it? I don't care who you are, you're gonna have some thoughts and some emotions. But if you don't take charge of your thoughts and your emotions and get your heart in the right place and get your mental strong, life's issues about what your family members and especially what your children are doing. Your adult children, it will try to take you over. It will consume you. You will worry yourself to death, second guess yourself about what you should have done, how you should have raised them, what you should have given them, maybe you shouldn't have been so strict, maybe you shouldn't have said this. Man, look here. This is why I said you need to be consistent in who you are to your wife, your family, to your children. You have to be consistent because if you know within your heart of hearts that you did everything that you could do, there's nothing more else you can do except go to your knees and pray to God for that person. That is it. I and then when I say that is it, I'm not saying it like it's gonna be easy, like the times are gonna be smooth. I'm not saying that. There's still gonna be some days where you might have a little worry. There's nothing wrong with that. But if you work, but you're not gonna be as worried where you're not getting good sleep. You're not gonna be worried because you're losing weight and ain't because you exercise. It's because you're starving yourself to death, because you don't have an appetite. You, you, you put it like this. I I saw a TikTok the other day. J.R. Smith was on the um the pivot podcast. Now I don't know when this was, but I I just saw the TikTok the other day. So he could have been on there last year, I don't know. He could have been on there just yesterday. I I don't know. But J.R. Smith, the one light-skinned brother, he asked J, he, he, he posed J.R. Smith with a question. He was like, hey man, you know, you done been in the NBA, you're successful, you done went to college. We see you on a golf course on social media, you know, you're doing well, you made millions. I mean, what are you stressed about? And of course, the comments was getting on uh the brother from the pivot saying, that's a stupid question. Like, you don't know what people going through, this, this, that, and the third. To me personally, I thought it was a legitimate question. Cause that's his job to interview, is to ask a question that people want to know the answer to. So J.R. was basically running off a couple of things saying, hey, look, I don't see my five kids the way I want to, and this, that, and the third, and blah la. So J.R. Smith, in that segment that I saw, he was a prime example of how if you don't get yourself in check mentally, emotionally, physically, you would get so beat down in life that you will be on somebody's couch that you will look and sound defeated in life. Can we have an honest conversation? You life, if you don't let certain things go and just say, you know what? I did all I could do. There's nothing else for me to do except pray to God. You will be beat down on somebody's couch or be in a psych ward somewhere because you're worrying yourself to death about things you cannot control. I can't do it, brother. I don't know, I don't know about anybody else. I didn't been through enough in life where my family, my children, and I know how strong we just talked about wives, but I'll say this for anybody, husbands and wives. Don't let your husband and wife put you in a crazy house.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

And when you said about what you just said about worrying, it's so true. It's so true. Because I believe my mom had two strokes. And it was it was it was for it was about worrying. Worrying about my brother, and worrying about bills. Two of them. And one thing, people like, man, you know, you look good for your age, about this and that. Because you know why? Because I don't worry about it. I seen what it could do to somebody. I seen it. That's why I say, well, your kids is watching. They are. I watched her do this to herself all the time about him and about a damn piece of mail, uh Bill. I seen her do that to herself. So I ain't gonna do that. I'm not doing that, bruh. I'm not doing it. And another great point you made about adult children. I told this to a friend of mine. And people think, oh, once, you know, once they grown, they grown and they they out the house, man, they still your kid. And the relationship is just different now. It's just different now, you know. It's um I got my father's he's 89 years old. Oh, and he's still alive, he's still doing his thing. He's still, you know, he's still here. But you know, some people say, Oh, you need to, you need, you know, you need to go see your father all the time. I'm like, man, I know my father. My father don't want to see me every fucking day. What he wants is for me to be handling my damn business. What he wants is for me, somebody not, I'm not calling him asking for nothing, telling him that I'm I'm I'm I'm down bad. I need his help. No, he wants to know, like he knows, my son is over at his house, taking care of his kids, handling his business. And when I need him, ain't no ain't no question. He there. I know my because that's what I want. I don't want my I don't need to talk to my 30-year-old son every day. I don't need, man, go to work, go be a man. I don't need that from you. I need I don't want to worry about you not being successful. That's how the relationships change. See, we talked about women and that's a woman's thought of mine. I took my father to the barber shop the other day. Him and Carter took them both to the barber shop. Whatever, you know. I know both the barbers. Carter, you go to this barber, dad, you go to that barber. Pay, you know, pay for Carter, pay for my dad. My dad, like, is he like, man, is you know, everything, you know, is paid for. I'm like, yeah, but that's cool, Pastor. Everything paid for. He's like, he paid for it. Yeah, everything's paid for. They're like, all right, where are we going now? Where you want to go? I need to go to the bank. You go to the bank, take him to the bank, he's flirting with the ladies at the bank. I'm like, take it easy. That take it easy, Pop. But do your thing. Going home. He's like, where we going now? Going home, you know. My sister, she she wants you back home now. You know, she wants you, it's time to go all right and go back home. Man, I see him, he's counting his money. He's kind of he keeps pulling out his money, counting his money. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, I don't, I don't, hey, hey, I don't question him. Hey, then he get up, he's like, he gets out and he takes some money and he gives me some money. I didn't ask him for no money. I didn't ask him for that. But that's the kind of relationship we got. That's that was showing me prowdy, you're doing your thing. He wasn't like, why you don't call me? Why you don't call me? Why you don't? I know him. He don't want to be talking to me all the time. He wants to know. We you want to know that your children are out here taking care of business. That's the difference. Yeah, when they're nine years, ten years old, and six years old, you're talking to them, they they you know, they tell you they love you all the time. That's great. But once they step out of the house, you want to know that they're doing what they need to do. That's that's what you worry about. So thinking that you're related, like, oh, it's they're grown and nah, man, it don't never stop. That's that's what I want to, that's my whole little talk right now. I'm letting you know if you're a father, it don't never stop. Until the casket drop, it don't never stop, bro. It don't never stop. It never you'll never stop thinking about your kids. And then you got grandkids, but it's just a different relationship you have. That's all. That's different. That's that's the only thing that changes. And also, you can give them advice. That don't mean they're gonna take it. That don't mean they're gonna take it, man. And you gotta be able to accept that. You cannot like their girlfriend, you cannot like their boyfriend. That don't mean they're gonna say, I'm breaking up with them. They might just go right back and be with them. You gotta learn, like Speak Rock just said, to accept it and go on about your life. Because if you don't, you will drive yourself crazy. You will drive yourself crazy and you will worry yourself into uh being unhealthy. This is the conversation about family that nobody has, that you've never had, that you've never had before. Now you've experienced somewhat of it, somewhat of what you should have had or should have heard. Obviously, we're not we we we're not done. You know, we're gonna bring this topic up again, but I want to ask you this one question, this last question, speaker. There is a if there's a young man out there, I say young, he could be anywhere from, I don't know, this started, I don't know, just say young man. I'm not gonna put no age on it. And he's having issues with family, a woman that he's with, and he doesn't know should he, you know, how when it's time to walk away. Because a lot of times we I've done it. You stay too long. You I've done it. I stayed too long. When, when, when do you know it's when when do you know it's time for me to go? Because a lot of us, that person might stop messing with you. And you still don't know when to go away. You still chasing this woman. When do you know? When do you have to know for your own health, mental health, physical health? I gotta move on. I gotta step away.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

That's an interesting question. And I I'll say it like this. I had a situation in my life when I was a younger man in my 20s, and I had a young lady who that I, you know, that I was with, and she desired, you know, a different outcome, you know, you know, what when being with me. And she said to me, like, hey, look, you know, this, that, and a third, I want this, that, and a third. And and if that's not gonna happen, you know, I need not, you know, you know, we can just go our own separate ways, right? This is what she said to me. And you know what? Without being hindsight as 2020, I still, to this day, I under Back then I understood what she was saying. Today I understood what she was saying. Now, d does she agree that was the best thing to do? I I don't know. Maybe she might be like, ah, that might not have been the move. Because I was like, all right, well, you know, well, we just go our separate ways then. That's fine. But I applaud it even to this day because that's the mentality you gotta have. She didn't disrespect me. She didn't, you know, she didn't do ill. She didn't try to trick me, or whatever the case may be. She knew what she wanted. Yeah, yeah. She knew what she wanted. To this day, I respect it. I was like, all right, it is what it is. Now, how that all panned out for everybody, I mean, hey, it is what it is. I'm married, beautiful wife, kids, it is what it is. I'm doing me. I pray to God that she's doing well. But the fact of the matter is, I would use that example for any young person if you're not married. If you're not married and you're not getting what you feel you should get out of a relationship, and I hear what people say, you know, especially for whatever reason in my head is ringing like a Kevin Samuels. Like, if that's a decent man, you stick with it, and this, that, and the third, I ain't buying that. Because that's that's still, you have the liberty to make your own decisions. Only thing I will say is whatever decision you made, stand on it. She didn't want to be with me for whatever reason, she gotta stand on that now. Stand on it. Like, you made that decision. And I would tell any fella the same thing, any young man. If you make a decision not to be with a young lady for whatever reason, if you're not getting what you stand on that decision. You don't need to disrespect her, you don't need to humiliate her, you don't need to take advantage of her. Just make your decision and leave. Period. Now, if you're a young man that happens to be married, that's a different ball game. Different ball game. And you might, first thing I know people probably thinking like, you can't say that because you don't know what he's going through. Stop with that we don't know what he's going through. He's either going through something good, he's either going through something bad. Stop. Stop. Because the fact of the matter is, your wedding vows trump. See, people won't hear that. I know that's a probably a bad word for people. Trump. A trigger word. I know that's a trigger word. But hello, your vows supersede whatever it is that you're going through. Need I remind you? Or was you married on a bunch of nothing? Call it what it is. If you just got married in a lope and y'all didn't have no principles of why y'all got married, no wonder you get so divorced so easy. Yeah, I said it. But if you got married on principles, your vows supposed to supersede what you're going through. Now there are limits to that. Abuse, right? Nobody should be suffering abuse. Physical, mental, emotional. You shouldn't. No, no, no, no, no. I don't care if y'all okay. You meant leave. Get away from that relationship. Leave. Run. You should not be abused by nobody. Oh, yeah, you can. You can get essayed in your own marriage. Definitely. So, so let's make that clear. No abuse is tolerated for you to stay in a marriage. But anything outside of that, you really have to challenge yourself every day. There's a popular thing going on on social media right now. People will say, why, you know, they're talking about some I'm single. Then they'll list a variety of reasons of why they're single, and then they'll conclude it with, that's my why. Okay. I would tell anybody, I'm married. These are all the things that I've been through in my marriage. And I'm still together with my spouse. That's my why. Like, see, so if you're married, you need to find every reason to stay together. But if your situation, even in marriage, is one where there's abuse that's taking place, and the disrespect is on the level of abuse, you need to find a way to get up out of there. But if it's anything less than abuse, no, you need to find every reason to stay in a marriage. There's no marriage that's perfect. I don't care. Show me a person and I will dig in their history and show you how not perfect it is. Give me more, give me your grandparents, and I'm gonna please give me an open book to their life, and I'm gonna tell you how imperfect they are. Because life's not perfect.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

You know what I mean? Life's not perfect. And I'm just gonna say like this, and we're gonna end it, wrap it up. If you're not married, because Speak Rock covered the marriage thing perfectly. I agree with that. Now, are people gonna do that? Because people play with marriage a whole lot. Even people who are now divorced, they got all kind of bad things to say about marriage. I don't wanna hear that shit. I I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear it. Shut up. You know what I mean? I don't want to hear that. Okay. But if you're not married, Speak Rock says something really good there. He said the disrespect. The disrespect. Because the, you know, sexual men do get abused sexually, but you know, I mean, that's not as prevalent as disrespect. That's the thing for us as men. And I heard something that that would that is true. That's true, is that younger men are more prone to take being disrespected by a woman than an older man will. An older man, we're quick to tell you, no, it's she's out of there. No, you're not finna talk to me like that. But a lot of younger men, you'll take a little bit more. And people say, oh, that's not true. Yes, it is, because I did it. And you probably people, you know, okay, you can say you didn't do it, fine. But a lot of younger men will take disrespect, the more disrespect from a woman than they should. It might be your baby's mama, and you think you have to take this disrespect in order to see your son or daughter. You don't have to. You don't have to. A lot of men stay in things because they think, oh, I'm not gonna be able to see my child. You're gonna see that child again. But when you see them, who do you want them to see? The man that's being disrespected every time you turn around? Or the man that's standing on his, that's standing up on his tippy toes, saying, no, woman, you're not gonna do that to me. This girl, this boy is just as much mine as it is yours. And you're gonna talk to me and treat me the way you wanna be treated, or else we don't need to talk. Now, yeah, that takes a lot, yeah, that takes some huge, you know, a huge sack to do that, but that's what you gotta do, man. That's what you need to do. And then just I also like Speak Rock said, you can't be the person, brother, who is being disrespectful, who is being, you know, being an asshole, treating a woman bad, not just just because she don't want to be with you no more. You not coming to see the kid and you not doing what you're supposed to, just because she don't want to be with you no more. You making her life miserable because she don't want to be with No man, no. If you doing that, you need to stop. You need to quit it. You need you that's not that you giving you getting no respect here. I hope that's not somebody that's watching this video or watching any of my videos. But if that's the case, stop right now. Because that woman is never gonna be with you. She's never gonna be with you. She's never gonna be with you again if you're doing that kind of stuff. And you'll probably end up doing it to another woman you with if you if if you don't know any better. So we hopefully had the conversation that you never had about family. This won't be the last one. I'm very happy to have my brother Speak Rock back, and uh we're gonna keep on doing it, man. And uh, is there anything you'd like to say to the people out there, to the Build Better Dads podcast, listeners, viewers, is there anything else you want to say about this or anything else?

SPEAKER_00 33:13

No, man. They need to just stay tuned. They need to stay tuned, and out of everything, you know, the the information age and social media age with so much, so many voices that's out, they need to stay tuned to this podcast and and and and let this get into their spirit. Good information that's going to assist them because there's a lot of nonsense that's going on that's being spoken that that that's that's not tried and true. You know, but the things that's being said on this podcast, they're tried and true. It stands the test of time. This is good information that would have worked back in the day, good information that's that works now, and it's gonna be the same good information that will work in the future, played 30 years from now. Yes, sir. So I would tell everybody, stay connected. If you haven't subscribed, subscribe because you're gonna get what you want. Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

We're not pretending to, you know, this podcast is about helping working dads, fathers. We're having the conversations that you wish somebody would have had with you 20 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago, because that's me. I wish somebody would have had these kind of conversations with me years ago. And that's what we're doing right here. That's what we're doing on this podcast. That's why I love bringing my brother Speak Rock in here to give his knowledge and his experience. I give mine. Hell, I even have my 10-year-old son to talk about his what he's going through. I hope you got what you needed on this episode. If you didn't, we'll be back next time and we'll see you again on the Bill Better Dance podcast. I'm out of here. Peace.